Kickin' sand around the pit
Over at Beyond the Box Score, writer Jeff Zimmerman says the B.J. Upton / Evan Longoria confrontation in the Tampa Bay Rays dugout on Sunday may have had 'an unseen racial impact' on people who watched it.
You may recall that Arizona Diamondbacks first baseman Rusty Ryal got his first career triple after hitting the ball to left-center field. Upton ran over to track the ball down, but appeared not to be running very hard.
Longoria and Upton got into a heated argument in the dugout following the effort, and Upton had to be restrained by Willy Aybar.
Jeff Zimmerman says the rest of the team, the managers, the umpires, and those of us who saw it on television may forever be affected by it.
Observers of the confrontation between Longoria and Upton probably didn't even notice the race of the players, but our unconscious mind is being told something else. It is see the black player (Upton) as lazy and the white player (Longoria) as the leader and putting the black player in his place.
I think he might be on to something here.
Because AFTER the incident occurred, there were lots of people saying that B.J was dogging it.
He finishes the piece by saying there's nothing we can do about it, except perhaps understand it, and "look in our personal lives for chances to train our brain differently."
Or perhaps next time B.J. can just hustle.
Comments
He really wasn't dogging it that much.
I am an artist and I have been drinking.
by P Brady on Jun 30, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
But everyone says he was
so it must be true.
Gregg!
by Gregg Burrage on Jul 1, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
This should lock up the Pulitzer.
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Make you want to kill him, then make you want to love him. Sly.
by Jonah Keri on Jun 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
by Doug09 on Jun 30, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Glad you think so!
I didn’t think it was that good, and a Pulitzer certainly isn’t the goal, but thanks for the kind words!
Gregg!
by Gregg Burrage on Jul 1, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That isn't why we lost the game
And if one has a problem using stats to prove a point, then use your eyes.
by Sandy Kazmir on Jun 30, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
Of course not
But this slump has everyone’s eyes on anything perceived as a lack of trying.
Gregg!
by Gregg Burrage on Jul 1, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Animated gifs do not a video make
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jun 30, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah
they are pretty terrible
Gregg!
by Gregg Burrage on Jul 1, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I will say again what I said at BtB
Upton didn’t hustle and was called out by his teammate…fine, fair enough. I wouldn’t pull out the latent racism card on that incident, but the aftermath of the incident has me incensed. The Tampa Bay media and local fans took this incident and have run with it, painting this picture of Upton has a lazy, good-for-nothing player that doesn’t put in any work and doesn’t contribute to the team.
In reality, Upton is one of the hardest working players on the team (at least from what I’ve heard). He put in countless hours this off-season working to fix his swing, working with the new TB hitting coach from Thanksgiving on, and I’ve heard it said that he puts in lots of time working at the stadium during the season too.
The problem is, there were one or two incidents of "laziness" when he was first called up, and this incident has swung everyone’s mind back to them. If you look at the replay, it’s not like he dogged it that much going for that ball – certainly not enough to justify the insane amount of flak he’s getting at the moment. People literally want his head on a platter and are saying they won’t go to games as long as he’s playing. That’s just crazy talk.
Maybe the incident itself doesn’t reek of latent racism, but the aftermath certainly does. Tampa wants to run him out of town on a spit right now, and I can’t help but think that the reaction would be different if it was Ben Zobrist out there in center who had dogged it.
I love Casey Fossum. Now try and take me seriously.
by Steve Slowinski on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
Great points Steve...
Whether Gregg realizes it or not, there is a long held racial stereotype of “blacks being lazy”. He questions the article by Zimmerman which cites one of the smartest men around right now, Malcolm Gladwell. it is dangerous ground to start calling someone lazy. Especially someone who worked hard enough to become the first overall draft pick in MLB, especially someone who worked hard enough to make it to the Majors at the age of 19, especially someone who switched positions in the middle of the year and turned himself into one of the elite centerfielders in baseball, especially someone who played with an injured shoulder for more than a year so he would let down his team and shirk his responsibility. BJ is not perfect. For some reason or another, he suffers from lack of focus at times, but that does not make him lazy. I’ve seen some lazy effort in the past week as it relates to sport, but most of it has come from the writers here at SBNTampaBay.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe because Zobrist is hitting .290 with a .370 obp, not .220 and only a .320 obp. And he plays good D in the OF
by thedudeofdudes on Jul 1, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you remove my moderation rights from this site? I shouldn't have them to begin with, and I definitely don't want to be associated with a site that runs stories like this.
Your failure to understand the jist of Zim’s piece is confounding beyond belief.
I hope you understand how provocative and irritating a statement such as "baseball is played on the field not on paper" is. It is the kind of moronic critique that anti-sabermetric neanderthals use (along with the unfunny "mother’s basement" canard) to debunk what they do not understand.
by kericr on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
This is an article?
by pudieron89 on Jul 1, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
This is a reply? Where’s the beef? Got something substantive to say or are you just trying to be a cute without actually making an effort?
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by John Fontana on Jul 2, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of dialogue coming from the author of this post to the substantive comments that were made...
isn’t there?
It would seem that with the volume of writing (or lack there of) that is going on here, some people on the masthead are trying to be cute without actually making an effort.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Jul 2, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
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